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Living in Grosse Pointe Park

Grosse Pointe Park is in the United States; its population was 11,319 in July 2026. For Grosse Pointe Park, 41.3% of renter households spent at least 30% of income on housing in July 2026. There were 7,168 physicians per 100,000 residents in 2026.

Last checked 2026-09-1935 sources

Population11,095people31 Dec 2025Official source · U.S. Census Bureau, Population Estimates Program
Median gross salary4,508EUR/month31 Dec 2024Community source · Census Reporter ACS 2020-2024 5-year, table B20002 (underlying U.S. Census Bureau ACS)
Median rent1,212EUR/month31 Dec 2024Independent source · Census Reporter mirror of ACS 2024 5-year tables
Unemployment rate3.33%31 Dec 2024Independent source · Census Reporter mirror of ACS 2024 5-year tables
Recorded crime1,584offences per 100,000country median 1,586 — about the sameOfficial source · FBI Crime Data Explorer / Uniform Crime Reporting
PM2.5, annual mean9.63µg/m³31 Dec 2024Independent source · EPA AQS annual PM2.5 monitor data 2024

Which United States-wide rules apply when you move to Grosse Pointe Park?

National rules stay on the country page instead of being relabelled as city data.

Housing and cost

Median gross rent was US$1,379 per month, while the median home value was US$473,100 in July 2026. Owner occupation was 74.4%, and the vacancy rate was 5.15% in July 2026.

What recurs every month2 published recurring costs, € per month
Grosse Pointe Park recurring monthly costs, € per month

€ / month

Internet, 60 Mbps€60
Mobile plan, 10 GB€22
MetricValuePeriodSource
Internet, 60 Mbps unlimited60.38 EUR/month30 Sept 2026Verizon 300 Mbps home internet21Official · national market
Mobile plan, 10 GB21.57 EUR/month30 Sept 2026Visible unlimited mobile plan22Official · national market
Median gross rent$1,379/month4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Households spending over 30% of income on rent41.25 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Housing vacancy rate (legacy series)5.15 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Property crime per 100,000 residents1,494 per 100,000 people1 Jul 2026FBI CDE/UCR crime statistics10Official
Average monthly rent (whole dwelling)1,403 EUR/month31 Dec 2020ACS 2020-2024 5-year table-based Summary File, tables B25065 (Aggregate Gross Rent) and B25063 (Gross Rent, units with cash rent)1Official
Median monthly rent1,212 EUR/month31 Dec 2024Census Reporter mirror of ACS 2024 5-year tables25Supplemental estimate · Supplemental context
Recorded property crimes117 offenses/year31 Dec 2025FBI CIUS Table 8 by City 2025 (CDE offenses-known-to-le-2025.zip)11Official

Is Grosse Pointe Park a good place to live?

There is no universal answer. The profile scores below show who the available published evidence may suit; they are a decision aid, not a personal recommendation.

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Remote worker53%strong on work, weak on air quality · range 44–62%
Skilled employee58%strong on work, weak on safety · range 49–67%
Student52%strong on education, weak on work · range 42–62%
Family62%strong on family, weak on cost · range 53–71%
Retirement48%strong on safety, weak on admin · range 37–59%

Worked out from these numbers

How international is the population?

8.8% of residents hold a foreign nationality — 974 of 11,095 people. This counts nationality, not place of birth, so long-settled residents who naturalised are not in it.

Uses a supplemental estimate, so treat it as indicative.

Work and income

Median household income was US$124,111 a year in July 2026.

Unemployment across cities in United StatesUnemployment in Grosse Pointe Park is 3.3%. Of 2,153 cities with data, 1,250 have unemployment of 0 to under 5%.

Unemployment rate (%)

MetricValuePeriodSource
Median household income124,111 USD/year4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Households with cable, fibre or DSL broadband90.75 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Households with a broadband subscription98.98 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Households with internet but no subscription0.55 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Households without internet0.48 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Households with satellite internet3.05 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Median gross salary4,508 EUR/month31 Dec 2024Census Reporter ACS 2020-2024 5-year, table B20002 (underlying U.S. Census Bureau ACS)24Community estimate · Supplemental context
Median gross salary (regional)3,848 EUR/month31 Dec 2025www.bls.gov23Official
Unemployment rate3.33 %31 Dec 2024Census Reporter mirror of ACS 2024 5-year tables25Supplemental estimate · Supplemental context

What does a salary buy in Grosse Pointe Park?

Take-home pay after tax, minus rent and the everyday bills this city publishes. Each line names its source.

regional median gross pay: €3,848 (US Bureau of Labor Statistics, 2025-12-31).
Left over each month€1,524of €3,009 take-home
  • Rent
  • Internet
  • Mobile
  • Left over
Line-by-line breakdown and sources
Each month€
Take-home payOECD Taxing Wages 2025, single, no children. Includes central and local income tax and employee social contributions; euro amounts at the ECB average for 2026-08.€3,009
Rentaverage rent of a whole dwelling · official · ACS 2020-2024 5-year table-based Summary File, tables B25065 (Aggregate Gross Rent) and B25063 (Gross Rent, units with cash rent) · 2020-12-31− €1,403
Internet€60 · official · Verizon 300 Mbps home internet · 2026-09-30− €60
Mobile plan€22 · official · Visible unlimited mobile plan · 2026-09-30− €22
Other everyday billsnot published for this city: public transport pass, utilities—
Left overbefore the bills this city does not publish€1,524
Take-home pay for other salaries and households Compare with another city Check a job offer in Grosse Pointe Park Salary needed to live in Grosse Pointe Park

Public employment service

No exact public employment office is currently linked to Grosse Pointe Park. The verified national service may still offer online registration, job search or an official office finder.

Country-level information

American Job Centers — Public employment service

U.S. Department of Labor Employment and Training Administration

Job Search

Country-level service information is not treated as proof of a physical office in Grosse Pointe Park. Sources checked through 10 Aug 2026.

Family and education

MetricValuePeriodSource
Residents with high school education or higher96.78 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Schools121 schools30 Jun 2026NCES CCD public school count14Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · school district
School enrolment, share of residents30.72 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official

Healthcare

MetricValuePeriodSource
Mental health provider ratio159 ratio30 Jun 2026HRSA mental health provider ratio13Official
Primary care doctors per 100,000 residents7,168 per 100,000 people30 Jun 2026HRSA mental health provider ratio13Official
Preventable hospitalizations4,854 per 100,000 people30 Jun 2026HRSA mental health provider ratio13Official

Yes — migrants can receive medical care in Grosse Pointe Park when the national insurance or residence conditions are met.

Healthcare access follows the country-wide insurance rules; local capacity facts remain city data and are not used as proof of eligibility.

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Country rule verified 2026-08-03.

Safety

Recorded crime across major citiesGrosse Pointe Park highlighted among comparable cities
Recorded crime across major cities with Grosse Pointe Park highlighted

recorded incidents per 100k residents

Philadelphia5,457
Houston5,442
San Antonio5,218
Chicago4,012
Dallas4,010
Austin3,709
Fort Worth3,158
Phoenix3,125
New York City3,039
Los Angeles2,212
San Diego2,082
Grosse Pointe Park1,584
MetricValuePeriodSource
Recorded incidents per 100,000 residents1,584 offences per 100,000country median 1,586 — about the same31 Dec 2024FBI Crime Data Explorer / Uniform Crime Reporting12Official
Violent crime per 100,000 residents126.8 per 100,000 people1 Jul 2026FBI CDE/UCR crime statistics10Official
Recorded violent crimes4 offenses/year31 Dec 2025FBI CIUS Table 8 by City 2025 (CDE offenses-known-to-le-2025.zip)11Official

Mobility and administration

MetricValuePeriodSource
Average commute time24.78 minutes4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Workers commuting by bicycle0.26 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Workers commuting by public transport0.18 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Workers walking to work3.6 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Nearest airportDET3 Aug 2026OurAirports18Official
Distance to nearest airport7 km3 Aug 2026OurAirports18Official

Language courses and integration

No exact city-level course record is currently published for Grosse Pointe Park. These verified national programmes may still apply; use the official programme page to check local availability.

Country-level information

Adult Education and English Language Acquisition (AEFLA) — State Language Course

U.S. Department of Education

For adult learners, adult English-language learners.

EnglishIn Person, Online, HybridCost varies

USCIS English and citizenship class finder — Civic Orientation

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services

For immigrants, future citizens.

EnglishIn Person, OnlineCost varies
National programme information is not treated as proof of a course location in Grosse Pointe Park.

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Climate and air quality

Temperature through the yearAverage daytime high and night-time low, °C
Rainfall through the yearAverage monthly precipitation, mm
Air quality vs health guidelinesAnnual means against WHO 2021 guidelines and EU legal limits

City values from the published air-quality observations. WHO 2021 guidelines and EU limit values are published constants.

PM2.5 across cities in United StatesAnnual PM2.5 in Grosse Pointe Park is 9.6 µg/m³. Of 968 cities with data, 261 have annual PM2.5 of 6 to under 7 µg/m³.

Annual PM2.5 (µg/m³)

MetricValuePeriodSource
PM2.5 — annual mean9.63 µg/m³31 Dec 2024EPA AQS annual PM2.5 monitor data 202434Supplemental estimate · Supplemental context
Average daytime high by monthJan 0.222 · Feb 1.67 · Mar 7.17 · Apr 14.22 · May 20.83 · Jun 26.22 · Jul 28.61 · Aug 27.44 · Sep 23.5 · Oct 16.33 · Nov 9 · Dec 2.89 °C1991–2020NOAA U.S. Monthly Climate Normals 1991-2020 — station USW00014822 (DETROIT CITY AP)17Official · nearest-station reading
Average night-time low by monthJan -6.78 · Feb -6.11 · Mar -2 · Apr 3.67 · May 9.89 · Jun 15.67 · Jul 18.28 · Aug 17.61 · Sep 13.22 · Oct 7.06 · Nov 1.33 · Dec -3.44 °C1991–2020NOAA U.S. Monthly Climate Normals 1991-2020 — station USW00014822 (DETROIT CITY AP)17Official · nearest-station reading
Average temperature by monthJan -4.44 · Feb -3.44 · Mar 1.06 · Apr 7.61 · May 14.06 · Jun 19.72 · Jul 22.33 · Aug 21.39 · Sep 17.39 · Oct 10.78 · Nov 4.22 · Dec -0.889 °C31 Dec 1991NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information16Official
Average precipitation by monthJan 53.09 · Feb 54.61 · Mar 64.77 · Apr 86.61 · May 98.04 · Jun 92.46 · Jul 85.85 · Aug 88.14 · Sep 84.07 · Oct 71.12 · Nov 70.87 · Dec 59.94 mm31 Dec 1991NOAA National Centers for Environmental Information16Official
PM2.5, highest monitored reading150.4 µg/m³1 Jul 2026EPA AirData PM2.5 annual mean9Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · county
PM2.5, annual mean11.87 µg/m³1 Jul 2026EPA AirData PM2.5 annual mean9Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · county
PM2.5 monitoring sites21 monitors1 Jul 2026EPA AirData PM2.5 annual mean9Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · county
Annual precipitation886.8 mm30 Jun 2026NOAA GHCN-Daily climate normals15Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · station observation
Maximum July temperature23.8 °C30 Jun 2026NOAA GHCN-Daily climate normals15Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · station observation
Average annual temperature11.48 °C30 Jun 2026NOAA GHCN-Daily climate normals15Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · station observation
Minimum January temperature1.11 °C30 Jun 2026NOAA GHCN-Daily climate normals15Official source, approximated value · Supplemental context · station observation

Similar climate. In United States: Dearborn ±0.7 °C. Elsewhere: Markham (Canada) ±0.9 °C, Mississauga (Canada) ±0.9 °C, Richmond Hill (Canada) ±0.9 °C, Vaughan (Canada) ±0.9 °C, Chatham-Kent (Canada) ±1.4 °C. Twenty closest, compared month by month

Monthly highs and lows against the 1991–2020 station normals of the nearest station; ± is the average monthly difference.

Population and city profile

Foreign residents and their share come from different publications that count different groups (for example citizens of another country, or people born abroad, or of foreign origin), so 974 is not 2% of the population. Each row names its source.

Who lives hereResidents by nationality, % of population

Calculated from the population and foreign-resident facts on this page.

MetricValuePeriodSource
Foreign-resident share2.04 %31 Dec 2020Census Reporter (underlying U.S. Census ACS)7Official
Foreign residents974 people31 Dec 2024Census Reporter mirror of ACS 2024 5-year tables25Supplemental estimate · Supplemental context
Population density1,978 people/km²31 Dec 2025Census Reporter / U.S. Census Bureau8Official
Population11,095 people31 Dec 2025U.S. Census Bureau, Population Estimates Program20Official
Population covered by crime statistics11,060 people31 Dec 2025FBI CIUS Table 8 by City 2025 (CDE offenses-known-to-le-2025.zip)11Official

Additional context

MetricValuePeriodSource
Median home value473,100 USD4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Owner-occupied homes74.36 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Labour force participation rate71.71 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Residents born abroad8.61 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Naturalized citizens, share of residents6.56 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Non-citizens, share of residents2.04 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Flu vaccination coverage62.92 %30 Jun 2026CDC BRFSS flu vaccination coverage5Official
Mammography screening coverage82 %30 Jun 2026CDC mammography screening rate6Official
Residents without health insurance2.62 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Residents with a bachelor's degree or higher73.31 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Crime reporting agencies1 agencies1 Jul 2026FBI CDE/UCR crime statistics10Official
Households with a vehicle available94.83 %4 Jul 2026ACS median gross rent3Official
Public transport agencies in the National Transit Database0 agencies4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Workers aged 16 and over6,246 workers4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Workers mainly working from home25.78 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official
Households using cellular data plans95.75 %4 Jul 2026ACS total population4Official

Alternatives for people set on Grosse Pointe Park

Three places for the three reasons people leave a city on the shortlist: stay in the region, stay in the country, or keep the budget and change the country. A percentage appears only where both cities publish that metric from the same source, period and grain. Distances are straight lines — travel times are not collected yet.

Grosse Pointe Farms as a Grosse Pointe Park alternative in the same region

4 km away, better on 4 of 7 metrics measured the same way, worse on 1.

  • Foreign residents: 6.4% Grosse Pointe Farms vs 2.0% Grosse Pointe Park+216%
  • Unemployment: 1.9% Grosse Pointe Farms vs 3.3% Grosse Pointe Park−42%
  • Median gross pay, city: €5,676 Grosse Pointe Farms vs €4,508 Grosse Pointe Park+26%
  • Recorded crime, per 100k: 1,110 Grosse Pointe Farms vs 1,584 Grosse Pointe Park−30%
  • Nearest airport: 10.0 km Grosse Pointe Farms vs 7.0 km Grosse Pointe Park+43%
  • Residents: 9,735 Grosse Pointe Farms vs 11,095 Grosse Pointe Park−12%
  • Median gross pay, region: €3,848 Grosse Pointe Farms vs €3,848 Grosse Pointe Parksame level

Plainfield as a Grosse Pointe Park alternative in the same country

A move, not a commute, at 444 km, better on 4 of 7 metrics measured the same way, worse on 2.

  • Residents: 50,043 Plainfield vs 11,095 Grosse Pointe Park+351%
  • Foreign residents: 6.1% Plainfield vs 2.0% Grosse Pointe Park+199%
  • Recorded crime, per 100k: 741 Plainfield vs 1,584 Grosse Pointe Park−53%
  • Unemployment: 3.8% Plainfield vs 3.3% Grosse Pointe Park+13%
  • Annual PM2.5: 7.8 µg/m³ Plainfield vs 9.6 µg/m³ Grosse Pointe Park−19%
  • Median gross pay, city: €4,830 Plainfield vs €4,508 Grosse Pointe Park+7%
  • Nearest airport: 9.0 km Plainfield vs 7.0 km Grosse Pointe Park+29%

Cities near Grosse Pointe Park

Published cities within 25 km, nearest first. Distances are straight-line.

Tecumseh Canada · 9.7 km away
Salary
4,085 EUR/monthMedian gross salary · 2020-12-31
Detroit 11.0 km away
Salary
2,493 EUR/monthMedian gross salary · 2024-12-31

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Common questions

Answered from the published values on this page, each with its source and date.

What is the typical salary around Grosse Pointe Park?

The median gross salary is 3,848 EUR/month. Source: www.bls.gov.

What is the unemployment rate in Grosse Pointe Park?

The unemployment rate is 3.33 %. This is a supplemental estimate, not an official municipal measurement. Source: Census Reporter mirror of ACS 2024 5-year tables.

Is the air quality good in Grosse Pointe Park?

The annual PM2.5 mean is 9.63 µg/m³. The WHO 2021 guideline is 5 µg/m³ and the EU limit value is 25 µg/m³, so this reading is above the WHO guideline but within the EU limit. This is a supplemental estimate, not an official municipal measurement. Source: EPA AQS annual PM2.5 monitor data 2024.

How safe is Grosse Pointe Park?

Police recorded 1,584 offences per 100,000. This counts all offences, so it is not comparable with a violent-crime-only rate from another source. Source: FBI Crime Data Explorer / Uniform Crime Reporting.

How many people live in Grosse Pointe Park?

The published population is 11,095 people. Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Population Estimates Program.

How many foreign residents live in Grosse Pointe Park?

974 residents hold a foreign nationality. This is a supplemental estimate, not an official municipal measurement. Source: Census Reporter mirror of ACS 2024 5-year tables.

Is Grosse Pointe Park a good place to live?

Grosse Pointe Park may suit different people for different reasons. The page's profile scores compare published cost, work, housing, safety, healthcare and other available factors; they are a decision aid, not a universal recommendation.

Which cities are near Grosse Pointe Park?

Grosse Pointe, Grosse Pointe Farms, Harper Woods, Grosse Pointe Woods, Tecumseh are near Grosse Pointe Park. Typed relationship labels are shown where published; other rows use straight-line distance from admitted coordinates.

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